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Bob

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Automatic signals for the "back lead"
« on: June 03, 2022, 06:40:31 PM »
Between Fillmore Heights and Point Vincent runs a reversing loop section known as the "back lead." It is frequently used by the south end Havens Yard switcher as a primary switch lead.

Since it is a reversing section, trains can't simultaneously enter at both ends without producing a short circuit. Furthermore, since most of it is hidden track two short trains can meet each other with disastrous consequences.

It was decided to add dwarf signals at each end of the lead. These will operate automatically, normally green. When a train enters one end of the lead, both signals drop to red. They won't stop short circuits but can prevent a Promontory Point meet in the middle.

To control these signals I made a small circuit board containing an occupancy detector from Model Railroad Control Systems. This detector has a MOSFET output instead of an optoisolator, and it can drive a sensitive relay. So far I really like the detector. It is a more modern design compared to the classic Chubb-O-Matic detector which still works very well. The use of surface-mount components allows it to be much smaller than the C-O-M equivalent.

I had no difficulty adjusting the detector to sense a single 10K resistor. It can be purchased in two versions. The other one has a Molex female connector next to the sense transformer so it can fit into a standard C/MRI detector backplane card, or into a smaller unit offered by MRCS.

A small power supply allows it to be connected to any 12 volt source, even a Tortoise motor thanks to a bridge rectifier at the input. If connected to a Tortoise, an electrolytic capacitor keeps the detector working during the momentary power interruption when a controlling toggle switch is flipped. Frankly my days of wiring under the layout are limited, so I intend to install this in a convenient location and vampire power from the nearest Tortoise motor.

The red perf-board is from Sparkfun. Although it is a bit expensive, it can be easily snapped to desired size while clamping it in a vise and all holes are plated-through so they solder beautifully.







Maybe this is much ado about nothing, but the forums have been quiet lately.

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Re: Automatic signals for the "back lead"
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2022, 05:56:14 PM »
Looks like a great design as always Bob!!  Can’t wait to give it a try at the Ops Session.
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Re: Automatic signals for the "back lead"
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2022, 04:17:36 PM »
Yeah, it's a boring photo. Here's the dwarf signal governing the back lead at CM Tower. The sensitivity control still needs to be adjusted. It drops to red any time a train occupies the back lead.

In the distance to the left are the signals governing southbound entry at the start of CTC. They are dark because the CTC machine has not been turned on. However, the dwarf is illuminated because it vampires power from a convenient and nearby Tortoise switch machine.

So far I'm quite impressed with the MRCS (Model Railroad Control Systems) occupancy detector.



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Re: Automatic signals for the "back lead"
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2022, 11:17:17 AM »
Very cool Bob!  I believe this control combined with what I have learned about how this part of the layout wants to operate will smooth out some of the interactions around the yards and Fillmore. I think mastering that back lead is a big key to success in sustaining smooth traffic flow through Millport.  Thanks for your enhancement!
Rick Bacon
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